It’s a Government Conspiracy

“The Gub’mint is hoarding all the ammo”

“They’re buying all the ammo so we can’t have any when they come for us”

You hear it over and over again. Time to take off the tin foil and read a little common sense from Frank Sharpe Jr. on Monderno:

Like anyone, I love a good conspiracy, especially when it suggests something along the lines of dark government forces working at some level to destroy our liberty (or at least blaming them forAlar in apples). Of late, one can’t seem to log on to Facebook or any gun forum without seeing predictions of our impending doom because some government branch has posted a contract bid for ammunition – the latest being the Department of Homeland Security’s bid for 141,000 rounds of “sniper” ammo.

Granted, if I knew nothing about firearms, ammunition or the industry, I’d probably think the sky was falling too. Problem is that I do know a little something about the industry, so I’m less than impressed with the presentation. Let me break it down for you:

  • 141,000-rounds of ammo comes to 1000-rounds per 141 snipers.
  • If one considers that DHS has under its umbrella the Border Patrol, Coast Guard Auxiliary, Secret Service, FEMA, and the Customs Service, it quickly becomes evident that they have far more than 141 snipers in their ranks. I tried a quick web search on it and the total number wasn’t something I could come up with, but my guess is that the Border Patrol/ICE has at least that many of its own. The 141,000-rounds are most likely for a single unit of snipers in one branch of DHS. Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
  • In the article, the author tries to insinuate that the purchase of 168-grain .308 is of nefarious origins because other bullets could be had for less money. Yes, others can be purchased cheaper, but anyone who knows anything about long-range, bolt-action shooting will agree that you don’t practice with cheap ammo and then hunt or snipe with the good stuff. You do all of your shooting with the good stuff because you need to gather data on your rifle and ammunition combination. Snipers are introduced into a violent confrontation with no warm ups or practice shots. They need to know exactly what their bullet will do under the wind, temperature, distance, etc they face when called into action. Personally, I don’t want them practicing with any ammo other than what they would use to brainstem a hostage taker who has one of my loved ones on the end of their knife.

In reality, 141,000-rounds of .308 is barely a drop in the bucket of what they should be burning up in a year. We can all stop panicking about it.


The author also mentions the recent purchase of DHS .40 hollow point handgun ammunition. Federal regulations state that all practice and qualification are to be done with duty rounds. As a trainer, I couldn’t agree more – we should all be training using full-power loads in order to better learn to manage recoil.

As a private citizen, I can’t afford to (what? You either? …Of course, if Corbon wanted to send me 20 cases of free ammo a year, I’d run it…but I digress). When it’s our tax dollars, money often tends to be no object with government agencies and the implementation of their regulations. Yes, they ordered around 430-million rounds, but that’s not all at once, it’s to be spread out over 5-years. Also, when you consider that DHS has over 300,000 employees (obviously not all are armed, probably less are than aren’t) you can come up with a number that looks like a bare minimum for yearly practice per agent. Sure, I’m speculating a bit, but on the side of reason rather than fear-based conjecture.

My practical comment to the .40 hollow points issue is this: Do you really think the US government is planning to declare martial law on its citizens and enforce it with handguns? We should be so lucky! The armed population of the United States outnumbers all of the world’s militaries COMBINED! I don’t know about you, but that makes me sleep better at night. Handguns will not win that fight.

Election cycles and legislative threats have caused ripples (and tsunamis) in the ammunition market over the last decade – it’s nothing new. Only recently have the shelves at most gun stores started to look somewhat normal again, well over a year after Sandy Hook. .22 is still in short supply, and manufacturers are still running 3 shifts. Remember, the government buys their ammo from the same suppliers you and I do. And believe it or not, there are some purchasing agents that actually try to plan ahead; especially when they find their shelves bare and re-supply a year out because of the latest panic. Last year I personally donated a case of 9mm to a local PD because they were absolutely out of ammunition and needed to get their staff through qualification. Government agencies are learning the same lesson we all are: If you don’t already have it, you won’t get it during a panic.

With that in mind, and the 2014 and 16 elections coming up, we should all be keeping our stockpiles high as there are bound to be shortages. So, yes – Have ammo! If you see it, and you can afford it, buy it. But if your motivation to do so is that the government is gearing up to jackboot you in the dark of night, then you’re probably vesting yourself into a whole bunch of needless stress. I’m not saying it could never happen, I’m just saying they’re still not ordering enough ammo.

Next time you read one of these panic-laced articles, web search the agency’s employee numbers and find out how many are armed and what their qualification requirements are, then do the math. You might be surprised at how much sense it actually makes.

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Putin’s short speech to the Russian Duma, 4 Aug 13

Sent from the interwebs:

“In Russia, live like Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, when it
wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and
should respect Russian laws.Putin

When they prefer Sharia Law, and live the life of Muslims, then we advise
them to move to those places where that’s the state law.

Russia does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will
not grant them special privileges, nor try to change our laws to fit their
desires, no matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’.

We will not tolerate disrespect of our Russian culture.

We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland, Canada and
France, if we are to survive as a nation. Muslims are taking over those
countries, but they will not take over in Russia.

Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture
and primitive ways of Sharia Law and Muslims.

When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should
have in mind the Russian national interest first, remembering that Muslims
minorities are not Russians.”

Putin received a five-minute, standing ovation.

Sounds like a nice story, I wondered if it’s true. A quick Google search shows that Putin made no such speech on August 4, in fact he made no speeches at all on August 4 according to the Kremlin’s own website.

No speech made on Aug 4th

I did some more looking and I found that the same speech was also supposed to have been made on Feb 4th, not August 4th, checking the Kremlin’s site again I find no such speech on Feb 4th

He did, however, make a speech on Feb 4th  but it is nothing like the above speech

The story can be found on many websites but without any attribution, leading to the conclusion that this story is FALSE.

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93 Year Old Kills “Knock-Out Game” Thug

Received the this story purported to be a valid news story from a website called “The US Patriot

St. Louis, MO — 93-year-old Gladis Bennett was on her way to visit her grandchildren as she usual does every Saturday morning. The air was crisp and cool without a cloud in the sky. It was a special morning too. It was her granddaughter’s 14th birthday. Bennett who has a pension from the military was excited that she could afford the extra presents and treats for her granddaughter’s party that afternoon. She was waiting for the number ten bus that would take her into downtown. That is when everything changed forever.

“I was waiting at the bus stop and suddenly felt this sharp pain to the left side of my body. The blunt force was so strong that it knocked me down. When I looked up I could see a group of thugs laughing at me. Then one of them started kicking me. So before they had a chance to do more harm, I reached in my purse, pulled out my gun and shot the main aggressor. Luckily they all ran after that. I was terrified. I thought they were going to kill me.”

51-year-old Knoshon Mootron a homeless man from St. Louis who witnessed the attack told reporters that Bennett acted like a superhero. “I saw her get sucker punched from behind, hard. She hit the ground, then they all start kicking her, she grabs this huge gun out of her purse and BOOM! Headshot! Game over son, ya know what I’m sayin’? Poor n*gga never had a chance.”

“I was mugged about a year ago,” says Bennett. “It’s scary living alone. My grandsons are all grown up so I decided to get my NRA card and a concealed weapons permit. If I hadn’t done what I did who knows what those group of boys would have done to me.”

Bennett was taken to St. Luke’s Hospital with scrapes and bruises but was released later that day. As for her attacker 21-year-old Damon Williams, he was pronounced dead at the scene from a bullet inflicted wound to the head.”

– See more at: National Report

The story sounded a little fishy and the photo accompanying it is questionable. The woman in the photo sure doesn’t look 95 years old and the gun appears to be a fake or an airsoft Webley Tempest single-shot air pistol and I have no idea what’s going on with the barrel appears to have the orange tip covered in black duct tape. A quick search  reveals that the story originated from the website “National Report” which is a satirical website. Here is their disclaimer.  The story is Fiction.

Edited, thanks Erich and Charlie Foxtrot, see comments below.

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Time to Fire Up the Old Blog

It’s been a long time since I did any updates here. Recently I have been inundated with “Stories” people email me stuff, I see stories on facebook, blogs, websites etc… and a lot of the just don’t seem “right.”

I recently received one of those stories from a friend, the story didn’t seem “right”, the picture illustrating the story didn’t seem “right” so I did about 10 minutes of research and found out the story just wasn’t true. So I sent it back to him explaining that it indeed was not a legitimate story.


So that’s what I am going to try to do here sort out which stories are true and which are not.

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Dear Legislator: An Open Letter from Colleen Lawson

I’ve been away from the blog for a while, been travelling and teaching some common sense to law abiding gun owners.

I found this video today made by my dear friend Colleen Lawson. She lives in Chicago and she was one of the plaintiffs in the McDonald case brought before the Supreme Court. Just watch and listen to her, how can leaving people like her and her family unprotected be called common sense?

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Responsible Gun Owners, Training and Benefiting a Good Cause.

I know I have been abandoning this blog for a few days but that was because I was spending some quality time with about 70 other gun owners taking responsibility for their own training and safety.

Training Staff day 2The event was the 3rd annual Central Florida Tactical Conference and it was a sellout crowd.  The event, organized by Jim Clark of High Point Training, was held with all volunteer labor and 100% of the net proceeds will go to benefit the Wounded Warrior Project.  It was estimated that at least $5,000 was raised for the Wounded Warriors.

The attendees were a mix of new and seasoned shooters all eager to learn new skills; it was great to see a number of new shooters among the familiar faces taking responsibility for their own training. The entire conference was a “hot” range meaning everyone’s gun was loaded at all times and everyone knew the rules for gun handling and everyone was responsible for safety.  Nobody got hurt, nobody broke the rules and nobody had to be asked to leave for doing something stupid.

Terri StrayerThe event was a mixture of Hands-on, lecture and competition. There was a very challenging match which consisted of the “old Federal Air Marshall’s” qualification course which way a very challenging test of shooting speed and accuracy, if you didn’t make the allotted times you weren’t even in the running for the prize.

The other half of the match was a simple course of a seven target array that you had to shoot from the ground, then kneeling, then standing after a simulated fight where you are knocked to the ground. Easy? Not so much.  I learned that my pistol may jam when I shoot it almost upside –down.

The shooting instruction was conducted by nationally known trainers.

Andy StanfordAndy Stanford taught “Tactical Dynamics” which included 360 degree gun handling and the Wyatt Protocol which is to “fight, see if you need to fight any more, see if you need to fight anyone else, and then prepare to fight again.” He placed a lot of emphasis on avoidance of trouble, quoting John Farnam “don’t go stupid places with stupid people doing stupid things” good advice for all of us.

John Strayer taught “Techniques for the Defensive Revolver” Which included the advantages of the revolver versus the semi-auto as a backup weapon, proper grip, trigger control, reloading and drawing the backup revolver. Many of the participants were surprised to find out how much more difficult it was to shoot those small revolvers (the loaner guns were “J frames”).  Quite a few participants were first time revolver shooters and more than one  man came up to me later and remarked on how difficult it was and how they could not believe how many gun shop employees recommended this type of gun for women.
Shannon SmithShannon Smith presented “Fast Accurate Shooting Techniques” This included a lecture on the benefits of competition shooting for the armed citizen and a live fire demonstration by Shannon. Then there was instruction and practical exercises on Fast Accurate Shooting Techniques which involved a lot of discussion of grip, stance, sight picture, and trigger squeeze, followed by live fire drills. The interesting thing in my group was he asked how many people carried a “full size” gun on a daily basis and the only hands raises were my own, my female friend and one guy out of about 15 people in the group.

The non-shooting portions of the weekend included Dr. Barry Garcia teaching “Tactical Medicine,” a SWAT medic, who covered emergency first aid for gunshot wounds and other serious injuries that may be encountered on the range or on the street.

Phil PeplinskiPhil Peplinski taught jand-to-hand self-defense, up close and personal, what to do if you are attacked on the street, and how to defend yourself from an attack with a knife, using improvised weapons for defense and how to retain your own weapon in a struggle.
What types of physio-psychological effects one may experience during and after a violent encounter was covered by Massad Ayoob .  Some of the topics covered were what types of body alarm reactions and altered perspectives that may occur during a violent encounter as well as what one may experience in the  aftermath of such an encounter.

So, in summary, it was two beautiful days in the central Florida sun with armed citizens taking responsibility for their own training, their own safety and the safety of others, raising money for a good cause, now that’s Common Sense!

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How this Blog Started

I have been watching Japete’s Blog lately, all I can do is watch because I have been “banned,” and I noticed that there is a new poster there ( I love peace) that is teetering on the brink of getting “banned” That reminded me of how I got banned by a simple “conversation” that I thought was polite. Before I started this blog I made this little video of the actual conversation the got me voted off the island.

Up until now I only shared it with my circle of friends and my facebook friends, so now I wanted to share it with my new blog friends.

If I was mean or out of line please let me know because I thought I was polite.

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Guns, Physicians and Privacy

Who would expect that a routine visit to your family pediatrician would end up with the good Doctor telling you to go elsewhere for your care? That’s what happened to Tom and Amber Ullman when they brought their third child, a four month old infant in for a routine checkup.

Now the state of Florida has a bill, Senate 432: Privacy of Firearms Owners, introduced by state Senator Greg Evers, scheduled to be heard in the Senate Criminal Justice Committee on Tuesday, February 22 at 9:00 a.m.  This bill would stop anti-gun doctors from asking children and parents if they own guns and then telling them to get rid of their guns.  It further stops doctors from denying care to children if the parents refuse to answer questions about gun ownership. There have been stories, like the Ullman’s, about office staff entering the answers to the gun ownership questions into the electronic medical record.  Now some may argue that medical records are protected under HIPPA but didn’t you sign an authorization to share your information with your insurance company. Your records can also be shared “to protect the public health.”

A quick look at the American Academy of Pediatrics’ website clearly shows their agenda.

On this page “Handguns in the home” They cite a number of statistics with no reference other than their own materials which in turn have no citation.  For instance:

Every two hours, someone’s child is killed with a gun, ei­ther in a homicide, a suicide, or as a result of an unintentional injury.”no  citation and no definition of who is a “child” some of these studies have defined  “children” up to age 24, and these statistics have also included criminals and gangbangers who were killed by the police or other gangbangers.

“Major urban trauma centers are reporting an increase of 300 percent in the number of children treated for gunshot wounds; in fact, one in every twenty-five admissions to pediatric trauma centers in the United States is due to gunshot wounds.” – again no citations for either figure or real numbers for that “300 percent increase”

“Parents should realize that a gun in the home is forty-three times more likely to be used to kill a friend or family member than a burglar or other criminal.”no citation but probably came from one flawed study. Source:  info pg 26

“ To compound this problem, depressed preteenagers and teenagers commit suicide with guns more frequently than by any other means.”true if you search for ages 0-19 but more like 1/3 in ages 0-15, depends on how you define “child.” Source: WISQARS

“A Center to Prevent Handgun Violence survey estimated that about 135,000 students carried handguns to school each day, and another 270,000 brought handguns to school at least once; that figure may be even higher today.” – no mention of where, when or how this “study” was conducted.  A quick check of how many schools are in the us gives us the number as 124,100, are we to believe that there is at least one gun in every school?

Here are some more quotes from the above mentioned page and two of their other pages:

Where We Stand: Gun Safety and Gun Safety: Keeping Children Safe That clearly show their anti-civil rights agenda, and they want us to give them our gun information.  Are we supposed to trust them to keep that information private?
“The best preventive measure against firearm injuries and deaths is not to own a gun.”

“The most effective way to prevent firearm-related injury to children is to keep guns out of homes and communities”

“The American Academy of Pediatrics strongly supports gun-control legislation.”

“We believe that handguns, deadly air guns, and assault weapons should be banned.”

“Until handguns are banned”

So I think I would take medical advice from my doctor and not tell him or her if I do or do not keep guns in my home.

More links:

I will take my firearm advice from the real experts on the subject.

Like the NRA and their Eddie Eagle program. Now the anti-gunners might like sticking their heads in the sand and imagining we live in a perfect gun-free utopia but that isn’t going to cut it. Even if they do not own guns themselves their neighbors do out in that cold cruel world. It seems that it would make sense to educate their children rather than remain in denial, it might really be safer that way.

For those who want to provide home protection with a firearm and have little ones at home there are some excellent resources out there. You can get more solid and realistic advice that you can get on the AAP website here at Safeshot Ltd.

Not all doctors are anti-gun either there’s Dr Timothy Wheeler of Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership who co-authored the book “ Keeping your Family Safe: the Responsibilities of Firearm Ownership.”

Then there’s my all time favorite website for women who shoot and especially moms (she raised 5 boys) The Cornered Cat, run by Kathy Jackson. Who offers some really sound advice for keeping kids safe around guns. She too has a great book out called “The Cornered Cat: a Woman’s guide to Concealed Carry.”

If you feel strongly about this invasion of privacy and you live in Florida you can email your State Senators at these addresses:,,,,

And ask them to SupportSB 432 and Stop Doctors from Violating Gun Privacy Rights.

Now isn’t that just Common Sense?

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Zero Tolerance = Zero Common Sense

This is where all the anti-gun, anti-knife, anti-drug hand-wringing and whining gets us to, silly rules that punish children for just being children. I thought all this was supposed to be “for the children” School staff and administrators, educated people, hiding behind zero- tolerance policies, so they do not have to make a judgment call, you know, an adult decision based on the facts at hand.

In the last few days there have been more of these ridiculous zero-tolerance suspensions / punishments in the news. I dare to say that I bet the stories that we read about are just a small fraction of how often this happens, most of the stories never make it to the media. The kids take their punishment or the parents fight the battle and then hush up for fear of retaliation on their child.

For Instance: “Virginia Teen Suspended, Facing Criminal Charges for Shooting Plastic Spitballs in School”

Spitballs. Dangerous weapons? Really? In the picture they look like those little Airsoft BBs, and they’re a lot softer than the dried peas that we use to spit out of the “Pea Shooters” that we used to buy at the corner “school store.” If we got caught with them in class they got taken away. Now it is a criminal charge of assault and expulsion from school. The boy is then sent to “a diversion program – which includes community service and substance abuse and anger management counseling”

So tell me how it is helping this kid to put him in a school of delinquents and give him “substance abuse and anger management counseling” When he has a problem with neither?

Next is this gem: “Cops Charge 7-Year-Old for Bringing Toy Gun to Class Kid charged with possession of a fake firearm after shooting Nerf-style gun”

“Hammonton Police began an investigation into the ‘suspicious activity’ at the Hammonton Early Childhood Education Center”
“Police charged the 7-year-old with possessing an imitation firearm in or on an education institution – a misdemeanor and a minor juvenile offense in New Jersey.”

The police for a 7 year old, seriously? Suspicious activity, give me a break, he’s 7. They charged a 7 year old for a Nerf-type gun. It boggles the mind.

The even quote another parent about this so called incident

Deseire Gherard, a parent of one of the students at the school, agrees with the policy.

‘I’d rather it be dealt with more severely than not,” said Gherard. “I would rather them go a little bit too far for the safety of all the children then to say ‘okay, it was probably nothing.'”

I sure hope Deseire’s kid never gets busted with a Tylenol, I wonder if she would feel the same way if that was her kid.

Now it gets even sillier, but not for this family “First grader punished for finger pointing”

“School officials — without confirming the identity of the boy in question — said a student pointed his finger like a gun repeatedly, even after being told ‘on more than one occasion’ not to do it.”

For crying out loud he’s seven, maybe a time-out or a missed recess might be in order, sheesh I’m surprised they didn’t call the cops on this one too.

Recently there was a study done in New York City about the drastic increase in suspensions since Mayor Bloomberg has been in office. it seem that the New York City schools suspend nearly twice as many students as they did a decade ago and the lengths of suspensions are longer.  Check out  “Education Interrupted: The Growing Use of Suspension in New York City Schools

Earlier this week I ran across this story “Ceremonial swords allowed in Plymouth-Canton School District”

It seems that this school district in Michigan is allowing children of the Sikh religion to carry their ceremonial dagger to school. It looks like some reasoning and logic might have occurred there.  Could this finally be the chink in the armor for zero-tolerance?

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Making Stuff Up and the Plural of Anecdote is not Data.

First the Anecdotal Part:

There’s a lot of misinformation, lies and stuff that’s just plain made up floating around out there and filling up the intertubes with useless junk.
Now we all do know that the plural of anecdote is not data, right?
You cannot take one person’s statement of their opinion and assume that everyone shares that same opinion. For example the Minneapolis Chief of police commented “If law-enforcement professionals believed that guns were the answer to reducing crime, your nation’s police chiefs would be leading the charge for more guns.”

However, he is voicing his own opinion, that’s how he feels. This opinion however, is not in line with the annual survey of the National Association of Chiefs of Police. In their most recent annual survey (2010) they asked the question “Should any law-abiding citizen be able to purchase a firearm for sport or self defense?” A full 95% of them said yes.

I can name several Police Chiefs, right off the top of my head, who are pro private citizen gun ownership for sport or self defense but guess what, it doesn’t matter. That’s their individual opinions. You cannot extrapolate one or two or ten person’s opinions into facts.
The numbers speak for themselves, and 95 % of your nation’s Chiefs of Police Support civilian gun ownership.
More examples of sweeping generalizations I have run across lately:
“The “gun guys” do not like law enforcement.”

“So at the the (sic) gun range in my area one must be an NRA memberr (sic) to belong I assume that is not unusual.”

Remember what they say about assuming?

Now for the making stuff up part…

Our friend Tom Gresham is fond of saying “A lie left unchallenged becomes the truth.”

So, I am going to challenge some of the lies, silliness and just made up stuff I have come across on a blog recently.

”The truth is, we haven’t really tried gun control.”

Really? Never tried it? Have you heard of Chicago? Washington DC? Two places with the most stringent gun control in the country and very high rates of all types violent crime. Things are so bad in those cities that private citizens petitioned the Supreme Court of the USA to regain some of their 2nds amendment rights and guess what, they won. See the Heller and McDonald Decisions.

For lighter reading:

“With a few exceptions, we have very few federal gun laws.”

It’s hard to determine exactly how many federal gun laws that are on the books because how do you count laws? Is the Obama Health Care plan one law or a compilation of many laws under one heading? This book, by Alan Korwin, claims to explain 271 Federal Gun Laws:
Now I can list, off the top of my head, at least 10 examples of Federal Gun Laws right here:

• National Firearms Act
• Gun Control Act of 1968
• Civil Rights Act of 1968
• Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986
• Postal Regulations on the Mailing of Firearms
• Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act
• Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990
• Laws concerning Firearms Aboard Aircraft
• Laws delineating the Exportation of Firearms
• Laws outlining the Use and Possession of Firearms in National Parks and Forests

While 10 might not seem like a lot to some people, most of these laws are large and sweeping and do things like: regulate machine guns, list “prohibited persons”, establish the ATF, establish waiting periods and the NICS system and include many laws.

“If you buy a partially assembled gun, open the box in which your gun comes and you will find right on the top of the box is a message from the NRA. You had better join them because, if not, your guns will be confiscated.”

I don’t even know that this means “a partially assembled gun” I know that Taurus offered a free NRA membership last year  but I believe that their guns were fully assembled. Nowhere on this flyer does it say or even imply that “You had better join them (the NRA) because, if not, your guns will be confiscated.” It a rather attractive flyer, not menacing in any way at all.

“Most law enforcement offices (sic) carry 10 round magazines.”

“… 10 rounds. Those are the standard magazines and have been for many years.”

I did a little research and came up with the following information about which duty weapons State police carry. It seems that the only ones that are limited to 10 rounds or less are the pistols that were designed that way. (Glock 37 and S&W 4500 series, all limited in their capacity because they carry larger caliber cartridges that take up more space inside the magazine and the gun.)

Glock 17  – 17 rnds of 9mm

Indiana State Police

SIG P228 – 15 rnds of 9mm

New Jersey State Police

Glock 21 – 13 rnds of .45

Arkansas, Idaho, and Kansas

Glock 31 – 15 rnds of .357 SIG

Tennessee Highway Patrol

Smith & Wesson M&P – 15 rnds of .357 SIG

New Mexico and North Carolina

SIG-Sauers P226 or P229– 12 rnds of .357 SIG

Delaware, Montana, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Texas, South Dakota, and Virginia

S&W 4006 – 11 rnds of .40

California Highway Patrol

Smith & Wesson M&P – 15 rnds of .40

Colorado, Iowa, and Washington

Beretta (Px4), 14 rnds of .40

SIG .40s, either P226 or P229 – 12 rnds of .40
Arizona, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Nevada, Ohio, and Vermont

Idaho troopers have the choice of a Glock 22 15 rnds of .40 , or a Glock 21, 13 rnds of .45 ACP.

Louisiana State Troopers carry the  Glock 17 RTF – 17 rnds of 9mm or Glock 22 – 15 rnds of .40

Minneapolis Police are authorized a broad variety of pistols that hold more than 10 rounds.

The Glock .40, America’s single most popularly chosen standard issue police handgun, including St.Paul MN. (15 round magazines)

Oh, and let’s not forget the “Patrol Rifles” that many police depts. use with 20 – 30 round magazines.
(Isn’t it odd that cops use “Patrol Rifles” but civilians use “Assault Rifles”?)
The Minneapolis Police Dept equips theirs with 20 Round magazines.

As for 10 rounds being the standard magazine for many years. Maybe that was true during the “Assault Weapons” ban, that expired in 2004,  but that is certainly not how the guns were designed.

So be careful out there on the Intertubes and don’t take anything that anybody says as “fact” without checking it out for yourself. They might just be pulling their “facts” out of their behind.

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